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Why is a group of crows called a murder?

By @motor_toni
    2018-08-28 06:42:21.207Z2019-06-23 10:22:40.493Z

    What is the etymology of the term murder used for describing a flock of crows?

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    1. M
        2018-08-28 06:46:10.921Z

        This questions has been answered in great detail in this Quora post. Basically, the term has survived to modern English due to its inclusion in a Late Middle Age book called The Book of Saint Albans. There are several theories about its origin:

        • For instance, there is a folktale that crows will gather and decide the capital fate of another crow.
        • Many view the appearance of crows as an omen of death because ravens and crows are scavengers and are generally associated with dead bodies, battlefields, and cemeteries, and they’re thought to circle in large numbers above sites where animals or people are expected to soon die.
        • But the term “murder of crows” mostly reflects a time when groupings of many animals had colorful and poetic names.
        1. KajMagnus @KajMagnus
            2018-08-28 06:58:44.356Z2019-06-23 10:22:44.874Z

            Interesting! I wonder how the crows would feel about being referred to as a murder? Maybe it's a good thing that so far no one has built a human-to-crow-language translator.

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                2019-07-06 17:48:30.973Z

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                  2018-11-27 10:02:24.375Z

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                      2019-08-10 23:06:13.509Z

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                          2019-08-11 00:16:25.440Z

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                              2019-11-16 16:28:35.473Z

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